Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:USV Scheiblingkirchen vs. USC Rohrbach 2018-06-16
Files in Category:USV Scheiblingkirchen vs. USC Rohrbach 2018-06-16[edit]
The Austrian Federal Chamber of Labour sent us a request to delete these two files because Lukas Baumühlner (one of the subjects of the files) “has never agreed to the photographer to publish these two pictures on your website”. The WMF Legal Team asked me to create this DR to know the community's opinion. Please express your opinion.
- File:USV Scheiblingkirchen vs. USC Rohrbach 2018-06-16 (08).jpg
- File:USV Scheiblingkirchen vs. USC Rohrbach 2018-06-16 (10).jpg
Bencemac (talk) 08:51, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
General Note: Steindy, the original author of this image, is blocked until 2020-01-24. If the author should have an option to post his oppinion, the deletion request should be held open until this point --D-Kuru (talk) 19:01, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Sports people, and I include referees, get their photographs taken at events all the time. If they don't want those photographs to be made public, they have every opportunity to ask the photographer not to include them, or to step away from the scene. The photos could benefit from {{Personality rights}} notices but otherwise should be beyond complaint. Rodhullandemu (talk) 09:32, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
- Nein, die Rechtslage ist da in Österreich ein wenig anders. --Ralf Roletschek 12:38, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep gem. EuGH 7. Februar 2012, Az. 40660/08 und 60641/08 ("...öffentliches Informationsinteresse nach den Umständen des Einzelfalles auch an Sportthemen...") kollidiert mit § 78 (ö.)UrHG (Bildnisschutz). Dem Caroline-Urteil II ist dabei mehr Relevanz zuzumessen. Achtung, in Österreich existiert kein Gesetz ähnlich dem deutschen § 23 (d)KUG! Schon das Anfertigen, nicht nur die Verbreitung unzulässiger Fotos ist unter Strafe gestellt. Allerdings ist eine Verfolgung durch § 82 (ö)UrhG recht stark behindert. --Ralf Roletschek 12:35, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete I think, we should give the guy the courtesy, if he doesn't wish the picture to be published. He is clearly not a public person, and I even doubt he is by any means notable, be it for Wikipedia or for any other related project. --A.Savin 01:07, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Wenn ein Schiedsrichter nicht eine Persönlichkeit der Öffentlichkeit sein will, dann darf er nicht aufs Spielfeld gehen. --K@rl (talk) 10:31, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
- With this, you are implying that any referee, once at work, is a public person. Which is obviously: nonsense. --A.Savin 10:38, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
- Sehe ich nicht als Nonsens, denn ein Referee, steht eben wie die gesamte Mannschaft in der Öffentlichkeit. --K@rl (talk) 11:06, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
- No. If the referee is irrelevant and neither is the match, he is not a public person. It's just like with a street musician: yes, is performing in public, but this alone does not make him a public person, never mind notable for Wikipedia. --A.Savin 18:37, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
- Wir müssen abwägen, ob der Schiedrichter eines Spiels im Finale im niederösterreichischen Fußballcup Person öffentlichen Interesses ist. Das ist in Österreich nicht gesetzlich geregelt. International spielt der Herr keine Rolle. Überwiegt das "öffentliche Informationsinteresse"? Das ist sicher ein Grenzfall. Bitte weitere Meinungen. Würde eine Zeitung über das Spiel berichten, könnte er kaum etwas gegen das Foto sagen, wir sind aber keine Presse. --Ralf Roletschek 19:31, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
- No. If the referee is irrelevant and neither is the match, he is not a public person. It's just like with a street musician: yes, is performing in public, but this alone does not make him a public person, never mind notable for Wikipedia. --A.Savin 18:37, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
- Sehe ich nicht als Nonsens, denn ein Referee, steht eben wie die gesamte Mannschaft in der Öffentlichkeit. --K@rl (talk) 11:06, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Lukas Baumühlner isn't part of the Austrian professional football and because of that he is definitely not a person of public interest. If he wants it to be deleted, this should be done. --~DorianS~ 16:41, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Deleted: Given that Steindy themselves blurred the subject, I think we can delete the originals as a courtesy and keep the anonymized photos. It's not clear what significant educational value was lost by the blurring. --Storkk (talk) 09:47, 4 May 2020 (UTC)